Withings Body composition model is : Fat mass + Bone mass + Muscle mass = 100% But I am seriously considering to just throw it away and spend more money to buy a Garmin scale. 2. Doch welche Waage kann was? I’m not sure if that helps the scale connect with the electrical energy in our bodies, but ever since I’ve done it, the scale reads PWV….without doing it, I’m 50:50 at best. The only one who may be larger in partnerships is the new Under Armour scale, since they own MapMyFitness. Though, we’ll quickly take a slightly closer look at the Body Cardio. I wouldn’t expect anytime soon. However, if you’re shifting your fitness levels, then it may be a better trend indicator. Part of what you are paying for is a background in enterprise security. Oh, and free US shipping too! That produces the below chart (to the right), which Withings describes as “good correlation”. Shows up on both scales for me. I’ve uploaded the intro PDF here, and the slightly more detailed pulse wave velocity PDF here. It’s actually kinda logical. Withings Body Cardio Scale The Withings Body Cardio isn't your typical smart scale. Most of the time. It's … After all, it’s the customers data. Meanwhile, in the background that data was quietly and quickly transmitted to the Withings platform via WiFi, and is now accessible via either the mobile app or desktop site. Then, I come here and write about my adventures. The Withings platform allows you to track 8 people on a given scale. And, I’m not entirely sure it provides much value. What about slightly slanting floor? “Yet on the other hand, they’ve already backed up their claims with a heck of a lot more data than most consumer sports/technology fitness companies do.” OK, but here’s the thing about the plot you show, something that as a physicist bothers me a lot about this kind of thing. So I recently added support for Garmin Index Scales to Smart Scale Sync. If you don’t do that, then this setup section will take an exceedingly long time to complete sans-power. But if we remove that metric, what we notice is that basically it doesn’t much change. Also, as I noted earlier, there is a slight height difference between the two scales, though I can’t think of any single case where that’d matter. I’m confused by the calculation Withings scale uses. And lastly, if you felt this review was useful – I always appreciate feedback in the comments below. Ahh…scratch that, I think I know what’s going on. If I step on it every minute I get results differing up to 0.7 kg. With the Withings Body+, I can see how my body is doing right when I wake up. I’m interested to know the answer as well, also is there away to link it to polar flow. Keep up your amazing work. Maybe I only have a few days more for testing :D. Yeah, I suppose it’s not for everyone. Sharing. But on the downhand I stopped using the withings on regular basis since. Double-check that your location is set though, else it won’t show up. Click above for all the details. The Fitbit watch already covers HR so it's irrelevant in your case. I bring up this connected point because I think it’s a core decider when comparing something like the Withings, Fitbit, and Under Armour scales to that of Garmin and Polar’s connected scales. In doing so, it then plotted a ‘not-optimal’ value of PWV: Now, my heart rate was definitely not 133BPM when I stepped on my scale – but probably around 95-100BPM instead. As with the Fitbit Aria 2, the measured data is sent to the Withings Health Mate app via WLAN. . If I make anywhere close to $5000 I’d for sure consider paying for API access, but at the moment the project (like most of my side projects hah) is a time sink and net financial loss. (That also means that it can’t make medical claims.) Lastly, everything else with the scale is working as described in the review. There are a lot of newer digital scales on the market. I think it was actually when I was weighing a box on a scale once and just never deleted it. The Withings Body Cardio does pretty much everything a smart scale can. All measurements were taken in non-athlete mode. – Body Cardio can measure heart rate, Body cannot 1) Yes, they have a pretty open API the only thing my iPhone let me do is sync withings to apple healt, not the other way… The sleek and stylish Withings Body Cardio seems to be able to do it all. 1. Came home a bit later in a fury: “who the F…. Does either model link to TrainingPeaks? How is the accuracy of the Body with the carpet feet? I travel a fair bit, both for work and for fun. Also, I was wondering if you had more information about the way the HR is measured with this scale? my weekly podcast - with GPLAMA, which is packed with both gadget and non-gadget goodness! If you want to send it to TrainerRoad/Concept2/Peloton/Polar Flow, you need to provide credentials for those services as they do not have APIs. Of course, with any of these metrics dependent on electrical impedance technology they can be variable in terms of accuracy. Once it’s pulled up you’ll notice that there’s a significant correlation to the heart rate. And of course – you can always sign-up to be a DCR Supporter! I’ve sorted it all by world geography, in an attempt to make it easy to figure out where I’ve been. But at the end of the day, you might just be wondering “What does Ray use when not testing new products?”. Since Withings is now Nokia, I was wondering how does this affect potential buyers of this scale. And if you want it to work every day all the time with Garmin Connect, you’ll also have to buy a Garmin scale. Any guess as to when Garmin will update their Garmin Index Smart Scale? Thus enabling you to make a fashion related decision. maybe next time! Next, the scale will give you the weather for the day. That and FSA money at the end of the year for some folks in the USA. Here’s an image that Withings put together: Withings will take about 15 seconds to measure this value, as it’s timing how long it takes for the blood being ejected by the aorta to reach the vessels in the feet. Then sometimes companies go even further, and they will actually undertake a study of their own (funded by them) to prove their point. The data is always up to date. I’m not that upset. And as always, feel free to post comments or questions in the comments section below, I’ll be happy to try and answer them as quickly as possible. Really handy and easy to track. we are living in Denmark and wedding is end of august. I think I’ll probably add syncing to strava soon too if there is demand for it. Thus allowing you to trend more easily. Meanwhile, over on the regular Body scale (the cheaper one), we’re just going to swing through this super quick, since it’s basically like three things in the box: Scale, feet, and paper. (16.7% ). This measurement is an indicator of the general health of your heart. I’m headed to Paris – what do you recommend for training or sightseeing? Withings Body Cardio (the new expensive scale). you need to hire a new model for these photo shoots. I also found foot placement matters. Withings has made some of the best smart bathroom scales on the market, and its new Body Cardio comes with a few extra special features that make it seem like the best of the bunch. So if Nokia suddenly wake up and realize they have to pay some more taxes for sell their jewels they just have to do it or calls four advocates to fixing the problem. It’s stayed connected to the Wifi, gives the simple temperature/weather forecast for the day and shows other body metrics. I encourage others to also return the scale and buy the cheaper Body+ version, saving themselves money in the process. So I have a working Withing scale that was not cheap. My muscle mass is being displayed on the app in pounds even though in settings on the app I have ticked Body Composition in %. No, unfortunately not at this time. I can go ahead and click on any one of those measurements to see more detail. My question is Mr. Rainmaker, what are your thoughts on the bone mass, water percentage and muscle mass metrics in regards to accuracy/precision? As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. But fear not – you can mix and match your own comparison chart using the database here. What happens when you need to replace the batteries (on the less expensive models) – do you have to redo the wifi and othet setup procedure? While they have a lot to do with how we feel about our body, weight (and especially body fat percentage) are only indirectly and partially related to actual health. On one hand, one has to remember that Withings paid for this study, the structure, and controlled whether or not the results were released. In particular software and connection to 3rd party sites? Withings Customer services gave me following names/model numbers for each scale: Withings Body – WS-45 (WBS05) It’s as simple as that. Two more questions: The whole leave no footprints thing. what I’m missing?!? As Brendan O states this isn’t advised, but if I want to get a reading that’s what I have to do. From your reviews I’ve purchased stuff like Go pro , Garmin VIRB , 1030 , Varia , Wahoo kicker etc etc. If this is a requirement, it is—in my opinion—an absurd one. After you remove the outer shell, you’ll be here: Then, one step further has you are removing exactly three things inside: The Scale, a micro-USB charging cable, and a piece of paper explaining how to use the scale: That’s it, unboxing complete. This action does not affect the other features delivered by our most advanced scale – such as weight accuracy, body composition, and heart rate readings.”. Although some of body measurements like pulse are not reliably measured, weight and body mass are reliably captured. Also, I can show desired weight (basically a goal), as well as show a simple measurement table: The measurement table is useful if you somehow get an erroneous measurement in there. The additional price is to cater for the other feature that measures the pulse wave velocity. In order to help you compare features, I’ve added in all the mainstream WiFi weight scales to the database. But you can support the site using the links below or on the sidebar, be it for purchasing the scales or just laundry detergent from Amazon. It seems to lose my wifi network every week or so and I have to set it up again. Configuration went find, but after some time there was an icon showing there was no wifi connection anymore. Thanks for reading! The reviews generally take a lot of hours to put together, so it’s a fair bit of work (and labor of love). And perhaps more importantly, they play nice in the sandbox with everyone. With heart rate you’re standing on the scale and it gives you your heart rate while standing: The theory behind this is to give you ‘resting HR’ (per the exact wording within the app): I’ve written a massive piece just on resting HR and why it’s interesting in fitness. The majority of the time there’s absolutely no studies behind it, it’s just thrown out there like someone throwing out ideas for lunch. also, the current retail price got a slight bump (up). Update: Since our original review, the Withings Body Cardio has now been re-branded the Nokia Body Cardio due to the acquisition of Withings. Going beyond recording the now-standard aspects of what we’ve come to expect from a smart scale — weight and body mass index — Withings's latest smart scale, the $179 Body Cardio… Required fields are marked.If you would like a profile picture, simply register at Gravatar, which works here on DCR and across the web. They actually do offer free coupons to the API, if you attend the Garmin Connect Summit for example or also usually if you take one of the CIQ sessions at the ANT+ Symposium. Aura for sleep, Activité for Steps, etc…). If this is correct. I personally wouldn’t upgrade…but that’s just me. Erfahre es in unserem Withings Body Waagen Test. Enjoy, and thanks for stopping by! I would not advise using damp feet as this would impact the fat reading. This comes to £89.95. Then hit up Wiggle at the link below! Some reviews are over 60 pages long when printed out, with hundreds of photos! I use the older Withings Smart Body Analyser and it reliably syncs to myfitnesspal which reliably syncs with Garmin. Yes, somewhere in there is your data – if you jump through some hoops to get everything working again. I assume that it would propagate just the same to Strava and Apple Health. Withings/Nokia Body Cardio – Heart Health & Body Composition Digital Wi-Fi Scale with smartphone app... 17 DIFFERENT BODY MEASUREMENTS - FitTrack’s Dual BIA Technology uses two different frequencies to accurately find 17 different measurements, including body mass index, muscle mass, and obesity level. The only thing that increases the chance of getting a reading is dampening the bottom of my feet. I’d like to have my measurements sent to Apple’s Health app, but don’t want a Withings account or to have my data stored by Withings. But, sadly, 99% of people either don’t care, don’t understand, or don’t care enough to pay. Compare Wireless Scales: Withings Body vs. Withings Body Cardio vs. Fitbit Aria vs. iHealth HS6 Core Withings Body Scale (Photo: Withings) If you are serious about your weight loss and/or weight maintenance program, you can now monitor and track its progress like never before, thanks to digital wireless personal scales. That you can’t sync weight from Fitbit or Withings to Garmin does suck. I bought the Withings Cardio scale as an upgrade to my Fitbit Aria. but not sure if I need that since %Fat and weight seems sufficient to see trends?! What makes me furious is that after contact with Withings support, it turned out the problem was just the battery level. Body fat scale number 2 is the Withings Body Cardio. Overall, I’m happy with the performance. Although some of body measurements like pulse are not reliably measured, weight and body mass are reliably captured. When the Withings WiFi Scale first hit the market 7 years ago, from the very beginning integration with 3rd party platforms was a key feature. It … I did preorder this scale from Clever Training a couple of weeks ago and I see today that they have it in stock so I’m hoping to get it soon. – Body Cardio is slightly thinner. Some other scales seems to have this type of problems according to reviews…. Although depending on the degree of accuracy and/or precision, I would find it useful in regards to progress/regress. This is the crime ! However, the configuration takes place via your smartphone (or desktop computer), via Bluetooth Smart. The Fitbit Aria 2 is more of an "everyone" scale. Compare Wireless Scales: Withings Body vs. Withings Body Cardio vs. Fitbit Aria vs. iHealth HS6 Core Withings Body Scale (Photo: Withings) If you are serious about your weight loss and/or weight maintenance program, you can now monitor and track its progress like never before, thanks to digital wireless personal scales. Facepalm, sigh… the feeling is priceless! However, it's fairly safe to say that Withings Body Cardio is … Before we get too far – to be clear Withings sent over both scales for me to try out (Body & Body Cardio). So it detects movement? UP TO 8 USERS PER DEVICE - FitTrack recognizes users and tracks results for up to 8 different people, including your baby, while keeping individual results private. Online sources show similar tables where athletes have +40% muscle mass. 2) Nope, I haven’t in my case. I’ve found that if I move too much, it won’t be able to get a heart rate value. So just picture me at the office getting a 70kg (I weigh 76kg) measurement at 2pm. Will you test our product before release? I assume this will pull in weight and %fat? It’s been stable on the Wifi connection and the app has been hassle-free. The additional price is to cater for the other feature that measures the pulse wave velocity. Previously you had to buy more expensive WiFi scales to find those metrics, for example the Garmin Index WiFi scale at $150. Any ideas anyone? So I will take their offer and hope to get something more accurate (anyone has experiences with Tanita scales ? But it’s just hard for me to see that it’d be any better than simply weight. Spent a lot of money for feeling more miserable At one time it looked like I was able to send the data to My Fitness Pal, but even that connection appears to be gone. It’s just whether it’s useful. WBS02 refers to the Smart Body Analyzer – WS-50. Whatever floats your boat. My Body Cardio device is toast. I knew that the PWV measurements were of questionable accuracy or value. The Withings Body Cardio Scale ups the ante. That’s how bad the Nokia take-over is… I would strongly suggest to not buy Withings/Nokia at this point until we know if they fix it or not. Go to popularity ranking That’s what Withings has done. But to keep things kinda simple for this post in the chart below, I’ve narrowed it down to the two Withings Scales, the Fitbit scale, and the Garmin scale. The current one has way too much leg hair to be taken seriously as a real cyclist. Withings Smart Body Analyzer (aka WS-50) ScottW, I too have seen some flakiness with the pulse wave. Any comments on this? There are some half-ass ways to get Withings & Fitbit data to sync to Garmin Connect, but it often breaks and only includes the baseline weight data (none of the advanced stuff). This is in particular noticeable on July 9th, when I had finished a workout and the scale decided my heart rate was 132BPM. So before we get too far along, I should clarify what exactly the differences are between the Withings Body scale and the Withings Body Cardio Scale. Does it still synch to some app/websites? Withings Body is currently on sale for $99 with coupon code BODYLAUNCH @ withings.com. Again, remember you can mix and match your own comparison charts here using the database, to show more scales than what I have listed above. The Withings design allows two people to share a scale. Once all that’s done it’s time to step on the scale and face your…umm…bathroom wall (likely). No cost to you, easy as pie! Most times companies toss in fancy metrics, it’s little more than marketing jazz. Hopefully some university or other medical facility decides to do a study on their own, without Withings funding, to see if the data can be corroborated. It also puzzles me that it resets tare after each time you move the scale. 6) Bone Mass So, is weather displayed only on the Body Cardio? If I am dehydrated and my body water is in the 59% range then the fat% will go up to 8,5%. But in your review you say it doesn’t. Today, I am five pounds heavier than I was in September. I have a vivosmart HR, my heart data is correctly in apple healt. Ray, any update on your view since Nokia changed the whole interface. Home blood pressure monitors are widely used by consumers yet cardiovascular health may be better defined by pulse-wave velocity (PWV). But it’s just hard for me to see that it’d be any better than simply weight. I’m still using it daily and overall it works well with the exception of measuring my pulse…it’s still hit and miss. FitTrack Dara is $64.30 more expensive than an average digital scale ($25.65). Until Nokia came and messed everything up. Because this older test shows what these scales are: Very expensive crap. We have a Withings Scale model WBS05 at home (I think it is the Withings Body Scale, but it says WBS05 on it). I got the Garmin scale a few months ago and i kind of regret it. The most common question I receive outside of the “what’s the best GPS watch for me” variant, are photography-esq based. I have a Withings scale. As these devices move more into the health realm and away from fitness, privacy and security are much more important. If you're shopping for the Withings Body WiFi Scale or any other accessory items, please consider using the affiliate links below! After all that’s said and done the unit then fades the display off and awaits its next weighty adventure. I’m glad I purchased the scale. However, it's fairly safe to say that Withings Body Cardio is a more popular digital scale, based on its 1,000+ reviews. Next will be scales and then the kicker Bike. 0 Deal Score. Withings Body Cardio. Withings Body+ costs around £72 and this then measures body composition via electrical impedance, giving you a rough idea of body fat, water percentage, muscle & bone mass. But as usual I’ll send them back to them across town once I’m done with this review, then go out and get them myself through normal retail channels. The idea behind this is that if you’re just waking up and deciding what to wear for the day, that perhaps by making a habit of stepping on the scale you’ll remember that it delivers the weather to you for that day. Well, about 45 days of measurements later I’ve got a reasonable good feel for things. You didn’t stipulate a rental contract, the device ownership IS YOUR, but NOKIA, like it or not , enter in your house and pull away some gear from your (your!) Neither Garmin or Polar allow you to sync your weight elsewhere, except for MyFitnessPal in the case of Garmin. It turned out that by re-configuring the scales, all unsynced data of me and my family members was lost. He mentioned that it would be either Garmin or Polar but he couldnt remember which one, and I do not want to ask him for more details as that would spoil the surprise. So, how well did it actually work? But gone is the nice dashboard, the meaningful graphs, the “congratulations on hitting a new low weight” notifications, the clean, usable interface. Even more, if you use Backcountry.com or Competitive Cyclist with coupon code DCRAINMAKER, first time users save 15% on applicable products! What if you keep it below the bed and move it each morning? Going further in weighing 2.0, Withings offers an even smarter bathroom scale with the heart rate sensor. The Body Cardio scale is still available under the new Nokia branding. There’s a number of cheaper scales on amazon (renpho/eufy/fitindex/greatergoods) that sync to Fitbit so this might be a solid option. I am using the IOS app and am not having this problem. I think a sheet of paper with the value 9% for athletics and 16% for non-athletics is more accurate than these scales. With the Withings Body+, I can see how my body is doing right when I wake up. But just checked your pricing and its pretty steep! After all, they’re some $50 difference in price. Unfortunately difference in measurements is very large between different body fat calculation methods they provide, that it is hard to choose. The actual ‘previous to that’ point may have been earlier, but it’s a week or three ago that I got the alert from TP saying I needed to re-link. Without getting too far off-course, you’ll also see the ability to assign ‘Unknown Measurements’ to a given user. That’s it. However, I expect that’s more of a short-term thing. The accompanying Withings Health Mate app syncs with over 100 other health apps, … Should you wait some time? Indeed, the naming is confusing. Conversely, if my water is high (say 61.5%), then my BF% might show around 5%. Standing on the scale is something I do every day and this gives great insights with the Health Mate app. The Withings design allows two people to share a scale. Additionally, it allows other platforms to access that (if you authorize them). 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